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WHY HAVE HONOR CODE?

XGC HYLANDER XC

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if u ask me this seems to be a very contriversal issue and many of the leaders from captian up seem to have split opinions on it. i think this is something that should be looked into and possibly ammended slightly. just a suggestion. i know many people who left because of major problems that came up. where many people were angry and then wanted back in because they didnt use there head and just get transfered away from those people.

There is no controversy.
It is exactly like I said it is and has always been that way.
You leave or get removed your tag goes on the DNR list. You are not allowed back in.

Our council members are not evil ogres that as well as the other leaders in our community understand that sometimes people deserve a second shot. It should only be a rare instance that someone comes back and it must always go up the chain of command. The problem is, people at captain or general sometimes let their friends back in thinking it is ok because they just left for a short period and didn't do anything bad like hit the clan.

No matter why you leave or get removed it all equals the same thing. Section Leaders and above are very clear on this so no need to amend anything. The rest just need to learn and apply it properly.

That my friend is what your Section Leaders are doing everyday that XG exists. Listen up, learn and teach your fellow XG members the same.
Thanks.
 

XGC HYLANDER XC

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ok this is wwat i have to say......................people are put at a position for a reason. Now it is true that the higher u go in ranks that the more power u have. but it is also true that the higher up in ranks the more pressure is put on u. Like for instance. If a general messed up that whole clan is affected. But if a Council member, Division Leader or Section Leader messes up All of KoG Gets affected. So im asking u guys to please stop complaning about people getting back in because the higher authorites can handle this. It is not a generals descion to let somone back in. SO PLEASE LET THE XL's DO THEIR WORK!

What he said! :D
 

XGC HYLANDER XC

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ah forget wat i had before i edited this but im just saying that this seems a matter that deserves some looking into because i know many people who leave dont realize they cant come back ive personally seen this in xgc and it is a problem but i dont feel that everyone who leaves should be told u cant come back people who are booted and banned yeah no they shouldntbe brought back unless it was done wrongly wtch we make mistakes to as captains and generals but i feel if they want to come back they should have to talk to at least a sl and give good reasons why they want to come back and then its up to the section or division leaderor witchever one to decide there fate i dont feel that when u leave are doors should beshut to u forever.

Dude, how could anyone not realize they are not allowed back in if they have read the honorcode???

It is clear a any words could be right there for all to see.

And for those of you that might not have read the updated version here is what it now says about this issue
If a KoG member leaves, they are NOT allowed back.
In the event of a member wanting to come back, each situation will be looked at by the COUNCIL/Division Leaders on a case-by-case basis.
 

KoG Dinerbro

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u see this is wat i was saying. A SL has been in XG longer and have more expeirence then most of us that are arguing! So If u actually want this question answered the rite thing to do is ask a Section Leader or a Division Leader and im sure they would be more then happy to answer it. No need for this big argument!
 

BuNiTe

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u see this is what i was saying. A SL has been in XG longer and have more experience then most of us that are arguing! So If u actually want this question answered the rite thing to do is ask a Section Leader or a Division Leader and I'm sure they would be more then happy to answer it. No need for this big argument!

SHABBA!!! see this guy knows what he is talking about. There are certain circumstances where people can come back and even if you might not agree, some people deserve the chance to prove you wrong. But you have to understand there is a procedure for bringing people back. No1 is supposed to just be like here welcome back. That isn't how things work. So if you catch anyone doing that then come to an XL about it and it will be dealt with. Thank you and have a nice day. CHEA!!!
 

XGC Unbroken

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well to answer hylanders question earlier there was a point recently where i was wanting to take a break from xg. and it was for reason not to do with halo but personal. but i remembered last second before telling some1 i was gonna that i couldnt come back because i had i forgot about that part of the honor code. i didnt leave and worked it out but i also didnt realize that there are cases with things like that where they come back. thats my answer though is that i think as captains we sometimes overlook the finer points in the honor code and forget them like the no return policy.
 

KoG MusicMan

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I don't think that when the honor code clearly states "If anyone leaves KoG, they are not allowed back in XG", it is to be considered a "finer point". It is plain as day and very clear.

We need to submit to our authority(ies) when it comes to this matter. If an XL/division leader/council member says they can come back, we don't need to question that decision, no matter what the reason was.
As a lieutenant, I have responsibilities to my squad and to my clan. However, I would hate if some recruit came to me saying "why didn't you do it this way" or "why'd that person get back in to XG". A recruit hasn't worked hard to get to the position that I have. I have been trusted with the resposibilities I have because I have worked my tail off to get where I am.

Here's the bottom line, we all have positions and responsibilities. My responsibilities do not include, Thank God, determining whether or not to let someone back in XG. NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON, we have no right to question our authority in matters that we have no control over. Let's let them do their job, and worry about doing our jobs. When we become section leaders, that will be our time to make those decisions. Until then, we need to stick by their decisions, whether right or wrong, and let the beurocracy work itself out.
 

KoG Dinerbro

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I don't think that when the honor code clearly states "If anyone leaves KoG, they are not allowed back in XG", it is to be considered a "finer point". It is plain as day and very clear.

We need to submit to our authority(ies) when it comes to this matter. If an XL/division leader/council member says they can come back, we don't need to question that decision, no matter what the reason was.
As a lieutenant, I have responsibilities to my squad and to my clan. However, I would hate if some recruit came to me saying "why didn't you do it this way" or "why'd that person get back in to XG". A recruit hasn't worked hard to get to the position that I have. I have been trusted with the resposibilities I have because I have worked my tail off to get where I am.

Here's the bottom line, we all have positions and responsibilities. My responsibilities do not include, Thank God, determining whether or not to let someone back in XG. NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON, we have no right to question our authority in matters that we have no control over. Let's let them do their job, and worry about doing our jobs. When we become section leaders, that will be our time to make those decisions. Until then, we need to stick by their decisions, whether right or wrong, and let the beurocracy work itself out.
this is 100 % rite my friend!
 

KoG Phantom

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Chris you are exactly right wether they make the descision right or wrong as it seems. They chose wether to let that person in because they have been through this stuff before. They know what they are doing. They don't need other people downing them from a descision they thought would best fit XG.
 

KoG Dinerbro

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and also if u actually feel strongly that someone does not belong back then politly get in a party with a Section Leader and talk to them calmly . Give them ur statement they will give u theirs and thats it. Im not saying that its going to change anything. Im just saying its better than gossipping behind their backs.
 

XGC Unbroken

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yeah when i said finer point i meant something that as a captain i overlooked because i was so used to seeing it there. and and seeing exactly what were talking about people just coming back that i ended up forgetting about it for a while. plus when you have things goin on in your life that are complicated often your head doesnt always work right i will say that. but i never said that the xls were wrong it was just everyone was seeming like they were saying it was wrong and even as a captain i dont know all about xg and i do forget things from time to time and thats simply wat happened i forgot about stuff and i expressed how my feeling were even though that how stuff already is kinda funny really. and if that doesnt make total sense oh well because im not sure i conmpletely understand what i just said but i dont know how else to put it.